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Sep 7, 2012 11:30pm EDT
, this is something the progressives in the united states have been trying to achieve since the progressive party bull moose party platform of 1912, 100 years, seven presidents tried, including some republicans, none succeeded until barack obama. and i asked the president, your advisors were against this, why did you do it? and he said, well i told nancy pelle city i may not get re-elected if i did this and so i repeated the question, why did you do it. >> if we didn't do it now it wouldn't have happened and to me that is the mark of a president who is showing leadership. you might not like it. >> rose: yes. >> but it is leadership. >> rose: i would say the following, john, i hear you and i know all of that, i have heard that conversation, i believe with a that even though he said i might not get re-elected he didn't for a moment believe that he would not get re-elected because his own confidence in himself was so strong. >> absolutely true. yes, he is extremely self-confident individual. >> even at this moment he understands intellectually the challenge and the risks and where the numbers are and al
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